Posts by Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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Angelo Catanzaro

by Room 215 in

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i recently heard angelo catanzaro, a rather prominent figure in the organization .. a long-time district overseer and a favorite of knorr's, died recently.

there was some indication that he and his wife figured out ttatt in their latter years and turned "apostate"... .

does anyone out there know what happened to them?

Angelo had been a CO/DO forever... all the way back to when they were called "circuit servants" and served my parents' area before they married and before Angelo married. I last saw he and Mary maybe 10 years ago when they were serving up in the Wallkill/Patterson area. I think Mary had a sister living up there that they would stay with and look after on the weekends. He was certainly up in years but still had energy and enthusiasm. At the time, they were talking about going off the road... very soon now. If he had learned TTATT, I didn't see any particular evidence of that, but then, I wasn't looking. I don't know of any other COs with that name.

He had a nephew Jonathan (wife Kathy) Catanzaro, as mentioned in the obituary above, who also was or still is a circuit overseer.

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Billy dont forget the bottles after the weekends.

Indeed. In addition to the bottles, the hoppers were often overflowing will all kinds of crap by Monday morning.

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

And I think it's hilarious that the issue of "a private message staying private" is being hotly debated on a thread about life in bethel--the land of no privacy.

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

I think CBGB was the only club named by Couch, but he had plenty of other comments about not going to the Village and not going to places where you're using the same door handles and forks as the homos.

Back-rubs and wrestling in your underwear seemed to be sparks that ignited frequent homo roommate orgies, according to Couch's morning worship comments.

It is somewhat obscure, but there was at least one morning worship where Couch went off on not putting trash in the garbage and garbage in the trash. The difference was that ordinary trash was separated from food garbage in the hoppers (hoppers were closets at the end of the hall where rubbish, recyclables, and donated crap were to be put). So if you had a pizza box that was greasy and had some cheese stuck to the lid, did it go in the trash or the garbage? In the garbage.

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How much damage has internet done against the The Watchtower Society ?

by opusdei1972 in

in the beginning of internet the society was worried about the information published exposing its falsehood.

so, i wonder how many people lost the society on account of forums and web sites like this.

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Billy the Ex-Bethelite

They lost a lot of elders and servants to Internet porn! But that was back when Internet connected computers had to be in a public area of the home and recorded internet history for the wife and everyone else to examine.

Now that all those brothers have WT-approved tablets and browsers that provide 'private' Internet browsing, they can be hardcore porn addicts and remain pillars in the congregation.

"Honey, I have to stay in my den and work on my talk tonight, so don't disturb me. Do we have any more hand lotion and kleenex for my dry hands and runny nose? And if you hear me shout, 'Oh god, yes!', it will be because I thought of a good illustration finally."

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Morpheus,
Time for more interrogation... if you really were a bethelite:

What was CBGB, and how would you know?
According to Br. Couch, what 2 activities would make roommates turn gay?
Bonus points from the Couch file, what was the difference between trash and garbage?

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In case you haven't heard this, here's the link to "It's the Hard Knock Life" - JW Version

by AndersonsInfo in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ale8iq3vcw.

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it's the hard knock life - jehovah's witness version.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Love it!

It's time for "Jay Double-U dot org" the Broadway musical!

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Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh

by WildeLover in

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.

i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.

it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

To some degree, I think the decline started around 2000 in some of the things I was in bethel. 9/11 gave the corporation a temporary boost in enthusiasm and numbers. After that, the economic meltdown around 2008 didn't give any real boost to enthusiasm or numbers like I'd thought it might. WT still boasts about increases, but there is the increase in 'anointed' that they don't talk about, and decreases elsewhere that they try to whitewash.

Regarding their "Master Plan", the GB is completely reactionary. These are guys whose master plan was to build their headquarters on a toxic waste site. I think they're going to try to sell the buildings that would make them money and convince the sheeple to drive over to the halls in the low-rent neighborhoods.

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Use of first names at the KH

by Sour Grapes in

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have you ever noticed that know one uses first names at the kh?

it is how are you brother jones?

how are you sister smith?

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

And then there was the issue of not calling someone Bro or Sis until:

they had been to enough meetings and studied long enough to earn this 'privilege'
they became publishers
they answered some silly bible/WT questions and got dunked in water

In the meantime, they were addressed by their first name or Mr./Miss/Mrs. So-and-so.

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Who oversees the money for the WT?

by John Aquila in

when the wt sells property for a billion dollars profit, who decides what that money is going to be used for?.

when all the money comes in from all the kingdom halls bank accounts worldwide, did all that money go into one big account and who has authority to spend it and cut some checks to whoever?

when all the monthly donations come in to the watchtower headquarters, who decides distribution, and to who?

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

But in the broadcast last month, Lett assured everyone that the GB was more careful with WT assets than with their own money.

Hmmm, if that were the case, wouldn't they be that much more eager to open the books and show everyone where the money is coming from and going? We can only conclude that they aren't really that careful.